This is Where John MacArthur’s “no divorce for abuse” Leads People like Don
UPDATE Sept 2021: I have come to believe that Jeff Crippen does not practise what he preaches. He vilely persecuted an abuse victim and spiritually abused many other people in the Tillamook congregation. Go here to read the evidence. Jeff has not gone to the people that he spiritually and emotionally abused. He has not apologised to them, let alone asked for their forgiveness.
[November 14, 2022: There have been some changes made to this post. For more information, read the Editors’ notes at the bottom of the post. Editors.]
Here is a “Christian” man who commented on one of our older posts (read it here) on John MacArthur’s teaching that God does not permit divorce for abuse. We did not publish his comment there, because it is so incredibly cruel. But I believe it is proper to expose the depths of spiritual abuse found in local churches in regard to domestic abuse hiding in the pews. Here is what he wrote. We have not altered the comment and the name he left as his screen name is Don Augustine, by the way:
First off the question was only about physical abuse ONLY.
Second John clearly recited biblical truths. Which is his calling.
Third has any Godly woman tried any of these truths?
Remember we live in a FALLEN world.
What God says to be true and righteous the world contradicts. This is why we have mental and physical abuse. God is ALWAYS right. The Godly woman who doesn’t make it through these truths and ends up dead doesn’t mean God is a liar. She ends up where?? Hopefully the man sees what he is doing or has done and repents and follows God before it is too late. Some couples make it out alive and well. Some couples don’t. John MacArthur is not the solution and neither are we.
Alright then, what Don is telling us is that God’s will for all abuse victims is that they remain in the abuse, submit to and respect her abuser, pray, and her goal is always to win her abuser to the Lord. And what if he kills her (either violently or as more commonly through the constant erosion of her health)? Well, Don says “Hey, no big deal really. She is in heaven.” And Don apparently would say, “Praise the Lord. He moves in mysterious ways. Que sera, sera.”
Don, if you were attending our church and you made a statement like this, you would be standing tall in front of the Elder board to give an account for these wicked words, your sin would be told to the entire church, and you would be put out of the church. Because your words are incredibly destructive. They enslave others. And we would not permit your leaven to be spread among us.
I suspect that our readers will have a few comments for you as well, Don.
One final note. This is the kind of wickedness that teachers like John MacArthur must take responsibility for. The “no divorce for abuse, just trust the Lord to save your abuser, it is wrong for you to leave“ teaching plants the seeds for these kinds of cruel words such as Don has written. Pastors and Bible teachers and theologians do indeed have a duty to consider what their teachings are going to produce in others. If Don were a member of MacArthur’s church, I wonder if the leadership would call him to account for what he has said here? Not holding my breath.
[November 14, 2022: Editors’ notes:
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