14. Weird jokes, love of money, self-marketing — red flags that Chris Moles is a charlatan.
[April 12, 2022: There have been some changes made to this post. For more information, read the Editors’ notes at the bottom of the post. Editors.]
Have you acted the buffoon at one time or another? I have.
But how many domestic abuse professionals act the buffoon at batterer intervention conferences? ….let alone be such drongos as to put those moments up on Twitter?
Chris Moles often “cracks jokes” against himself. But there’s something deeply unsettling about his so-called jokes. And he obviously relishes the attention he gets from being able to make his audience laugh. In my opinion, this just shows how smugly self-conceited he is.
Chris and another pastor wrote church plant rant in 2003 while they were planting new churches for the Christian Missionary Alliance (CMA). At the top of their blog they wrote this:
THE BIZARRE ADVENTURES OF TWO REDNECK GOOFBALLS WHO CONNED AN ENTIRE DENOMINATION INTO FUNDING THEIR TWO CHURCH PLANTS CHRIS MOLES IS PASTOR OF GRACE COMMUNITY CHURCH IN ELEANOR, WV, POPULATION 18 IF YOU COUNT THE DOGS. SCOTT ELKINS IS PASTOR OF THE CHURCH DOWNTOWN IN HUNTINGTON, WV POPULATION ABOUT 60,000, AND THAT INCLUDES THE HIPPIES, DRUG DEALERS, AND STREET FOLK.
Truly, you can’t make this stuff up!
Chris Moles called himself a “goofball”. Chris and his buddy Scott Elkins openly stated that they “conned” the CMA to fund them to plant two churches in West Virginia. Out of the mouth the heart speaks.
Here is what the self-professed goofball said fourteen years later in 2017, when delivering a presentation to biblical counselors —
I don’t take myself too seriously, so I would appreciate if you’d join me in that.
….I remember early on, when I was first starting this work [batterer intervention programs], about ten or twelve years ago, I had a supervisor, somebody from the State, it was a secular monitoring agency. She was watching me facilitate a group and asking me questions. And afterwards she said, “Chris,” (she was not happy) “you are far too jovial with these guys. They are not your friends. They’re here to be punished.”
I was like, “oh” – so I pushed back a little. I said, “I know they’re not my friends, we’re not hanging out afterwards, that’s not what we’re doing. But I feel like if I don’t approach them as human beings, then I’m going to burn out really quick and they’re not going to have any hope.”
So, when I teach and talk I’m not trying to make anything light about our tough topic. But we are going to have a little bit of fun because if we spend four straight hours today, and a couple more tomorrow if you join me in those session, it is disparaging, the information we’re talking about. Okay? So, feel free to laugh, we’re going to have a good time. And we’re going to learn a little bit about the hope that is in the gospel. (B 00:42*)
I have to ask myself whether Chris knows the meaning of the word “disparaging”.
Let me give you another example of Chris Moles’ weird sense of humor. He gave a talk to biblical counselors on the impact of abuse on children (G). I thought that talk was pretty good apart from one weird moment where Chris’s bizarre sense of humor surfaced for a second. Here are the words he uttered that were hair-raising:
My goal is really to tell jokes so that no one laughs at the end of the day, and I’m completely isolated from you. (G 49:09)
You can hear on the audio how his audience of biblical counselors laughed when he made that self-deprecating “joke”. Truly, it sent chills down my spine.
Even more sickening, Chris calls the Lord Jesus Christ “dude” –
I love that dude! (B 40:00)
Well – awesome! I love this dude! Jesus is the best! (F 28:00–29:11)
When a person refers to Jesus as “dude,” it is evidence that the person has no fear of God.
Chris Moles’ attitude to money
Chris recounts that in his early days as a church planter he was praying for something to do because he needed help connecting with the community. And soon after he was invited to work for the juvenile crime board of his local county (F 01:57; H 02:07). He thought that was an answer to his prayer. So he worked in government programs for juvenile justice, and that led to him leading parenting courses for the government, and that led to him being asked if he would facilitate batterer intervention programs. He says he repeatedly refused to work in batterer intervention, but changed his mind when he was told about the $$$ he would get paid. (N 36:00; C 3:22-5:35, B 4:45 to 5:36)
Chris says he’s embroidered that story slightly, while giggling because the story is self-deprecating. But it’s obvious he enjoys getting his audience to laugh.
In addition to his government-funded work with abusers for the parole board, Chris has offered individual coaching for abusive men. Here is how he has marketed his coaching program. I copied and pasted these words from his website some months ago (link):
Coaching with Chris
Rev. Chris Moles works directly with select groups of men who desire to move from destructive patterns in their lives and relationships to healthy and supportive alternatives.
Are you ready to:
- Move beyond fear, anger, and destructive behavior and live for the glory of God?
- Practice Biblical life-skills that will allow you to challenge destructive thinking, emotions, and behavior making way for more healthy and loving relationships?
- Become more intentional about compassion, gentleness, and kindness towards others?
- Deepen your relationship with God and others?
- Find freedom to become the man God designed you to be?
Working with a coach can help!
Chris is accepting applications for his three (3) month “Men of Peace” coaching programs. Complete the application below to get started with no obligation and to see if coaching is a good fit for you.
In the final question on the application form at his website, Chris Moles said to his potential participants: “The investment to work with Chris personally is $3,000. Does this fit your budget?”
Note: Chris’s website now says he is no longer accepting applications for his Men of Peace Coaching Groups. (link)
Yes, we all need to make a living: we all need shelter over our heads and food and clothing. And if we have children under our care, we need to provide for them. But that’s not the same thing as having a love of money. The Bible says that if someone has a love of money, that disqualifies them from having a leadership position in a congregation of the church (1 Tim 3:3).
I have heard that it is not uncommon in America for men who are mandated to attend batterer intervention programs to lean on their parents or extended family to fork out the weekly program fee. Abusive men are milking their long-suffering families to pay the fees for them to attend court-ordered batterer intervention programs.
It is totally unethical for a Christian to get paid to work with an abuser when the abuser’s family have to tighten their belts in order to pay the fees.
The Bible tells us that a man who financially abuses his family is worse than an unbeliever.
If anyone does not provide for his own family, especially for his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. (1 Tim 5:8 CSB)
When he is addressing ‘C’hristian audiences, Chris frequently plugs his book and touts himself as a domestic abuse consultant for churches (e.g., F 20:34-22:25; 59:18). He is blatant about how he enjoys the money he gets from being seen as an expert.
At chrismoles.org: (Subscription Registration Form link) you will see that Chris is running “Peaceworks University”. The fee to sign up to “Peaceworks University” is US$15 per month or $150 per annum.
To call his online thing a “university” is the height of arrogance and foolishness. A university is a fully accredited institution: it can only call itself a university if it is accredited by the authorities. A university is an institution that provides Bachelor or Master or PhD level courses of study, and it has to meet strict standards to be accredited by government authorities. Chris Moles reveals his pride and stupidity by using the term “university” for his $150 a year coaching program for dippy church people.
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