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Sheep, sheep-like shepherds, shepherds, and wolves

Society and especially the churches are in perilous times. Therefore it’s imperative to discern the difference between shepherds and wolves.

There are three types of people in the church, as there are elsewhere. That’s a generalisation, but it can help us understand life. In Christian terms, those three types are Sheep, Shepherds and Wolves.

This is part 1 of a 3-part series.  Part 2  Part 3

Jesus is the good shepherd, the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep (John 10:11). Jesus is the chief shepherd (1 Pet 5:4).

There are under-shepherds who are doing their humble best with the gifts God has given them to help other believers learn and apply the truths of God.

But here’s the rub: Any under-shepherd who is respected by sheep may turn out to be more sheep-like than shepherd-like. And sheep-like leaders can pretty easily be manipulated to enable the wolves, which means they abandon the sheep.

Here is a sketch of Sheep, Shepherds and Wolves in a typical church:

The Sheep are told that if they come along on Sunday, behave just so during the service (e.g. wave their hands in the air, or not wave their hands in the air), sing the songs just so, and believe the things they are told, they will become the children of God just so and Redemption is assured. They’re told they are amongst all good people and the Wolves are prowling around outside in the ‘world’. So they feel safe and good about themselves in this fantasy world.

The Shepherds tell this story just so and feel mighty important preaching this Feel-Good News and all will be well. God is smiling down on them. The importance they feel becomes pride, and distorted perceptions set in. Soon the Shepherds are attached to this image of the good people safe inside being led by good Shepherds (themselves) and the bad people (the Wolves) are all outside. So the Shepherds feel important in this fantasy world and become reliant on it.

The Wolves love this story because, in this story, the Wolves do not exist inside the walls of this feel-good-social-club and are free to fleece and cull the sheep at will. They are invisible. And the Sheep and the Shepherds will cover for them whenever the reality threatens to break cover and become visible, because everyone is all too attached to this fantasy feel-good safe world within the church.

Then someone comes along to blow the whistle to alert and protect others from the Wolves in their midst, and gets attacked by all the feel-good Sheep and Shepherds who would rather live in a fantasy.

Well, there is definitely someone smiling down at all this fantasy (lies) and it is definitely not God.
comment by James at my blog The Mystery Of Iniquity

So-called shepherds in the church could be broadly categorised into two groups

1. True under-shepherds for Jesus Christ (Eph 4:10-12).

True under-shepherds in the church must personally know Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. They must be following Christ and heeding the promptings of the Holy Spirit.

The office of under-shepherd (pastor, overseer, bishop, priest, elder) in the church requires character and capability.  I’m going to quote the passages in 1 Timothy and Titus which set out the qualifications for under-shepherds. (Possible trigger warning for victims of abuse who have had these passages used against them.)

And a preliminary note about the phrase “the husband of one wife”. That phrase probably means a church leader should have exemplary sexual morality. It may be similar to our phrase “he only has eyes for one woman”. In other words, no ogling, no nursing of illicit sexual desires, no illicit sexual relationships, no concubines, no use of prostitutes or pornography. It does not mean the person can only be married once. (more about this on p 60 of my book Not Under Bondage)

A bishop must be faultless, the husband of one wife, sober, discreet, respectable; who is welcoming toward others and giving of shelter; able to teach; not drunken, no fighter; not given to the love of money, but gentle, abhorring quarrels, abhorring covetousness; and one who rules his own house well, having his children under obedience with all respectfulness. For if a man cannot manage his own house, how will he care for the congregation of God? He may not be a young scholar, lest he swell and fall into the judgment of the evil speaker. He must also be well reported of among those who are outside, lest he fall into rebuke and the snare of the evil speaker. (1 Tim 3:2-7)

faultless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not known for running wild or disobedience. not stubborn, not angry, no drunkard, no fighter; not given to the love of money, but welcoming toward people and willing to take them in; one who loves goodness, sober-minded, righteous, holy, temperate; and such as cleaves to the true word of doctrine, so that he may be able to exhort with wholesome teaching, and to refute those who speak against it. (Titus 1:5b-9)

Those two passages say that a church overseer should be “able to teach” — a person who “cleaves to the true word of doctrine, so that he may be able to exhort with wholesome teaching, and to refute those who speak against it”. If someone is able to teach and lead sheep as a true under-shepherd, that person must be able to think logically and handle multiple variables. See Logic and Authority in the Church.

Some people have the character and natural capability to function as true under-shepherds but they are not given any formal office of leadership.

2. Hirelings / hired servants / hired men

A hired servant, who is not the shepherd, neither are the sheep his own, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep, and flees; and the wolf catches them, and scatters the sheep. (John 10:12)

These people have been given the office of shepherd by a church or parachurch organisation. They are attracted to the office by status and pay; they are not committed to protecting the sheep. If they are deemed shepherds by an online community, they may not be paid for what they do, but they are attracted by the status of having a following.

These people do not understand Jesus’ saying, “What you did for the least of mine, you did for me”. (See Matt 25:41-46)

Some of these people are what I call “sheep-like shepherds”. Some them have believed in a Story Faith but do not personally know Jesus — they are not born again. Others are born again and know Jesus as their Lord and Saviour, but, because they do not have the personal qualities to be a true under-shepherd, they are easily manipulated by the wolves and the wolf-master Satan. (See Logic and Authority in the Church).

Other hired servants are committed wolves, masquerading as shepherds but consciously working for their father Satan. Jesus warned us, “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” (Matt 7:15) The Apostle Paul said, “For I am sure of this, that after my departing, grievous wolves will enter in among you, who will not spare the flock.” (Acts 20:29)

Wolves always try to manipulate shepherds so that the wolves can get away with preying on the sheep. Furthermore, wolves will use blackmail and other devious arts to get the sheep-like shepherds to join in or go along with the wolfish evil agenda.

Sheep-like shepherds may be wittingly or unwittingly complying with the wolfish agenda. See Blindness exacerbated by individual choice and Blindness as a result of being deceived by others

But the sure foundation of God remains, and has this seal: the Lord knows those that are his. And let everyone who calls on the name of Christ depart from iniquity. (2 Tim 2:19)

Sheep in the church, broadly speaking, also fall into two groups

1. Those who personally know Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.

These people have been born again. They may not possess (or yet have developed) the qualities required to be a true shepherd. They are happy and willing to be led by shepherds.

These people tend to read the bible diligently; scripture feeds them and helps them grow in Christ. But it’s important to note that some genuine believers who are survivors of spiritual abuse choose not to read the bible much, because it triggers them. Their abusers used scripture as a weapon against them. They are taking personal responsibility to manage their triggers without being flooded.

Because the church is heavily weighted with hirelings, and because many of the hired servants are either wolves or have been recruited or blackmailed into complying with the wolfish agenda, these sheep can have a hard time discerning between the true under-shepherds and the hired servants. See Blindness exacerbated by group choice and group-leader choice

2. Those who have believed in a Story Faith but who are not actually born again.

These people do not personally know Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. They are happy with the church being a social club. They buy pretty much whatever the shepherds tell them.

These people tend to read the Bible rarely and then only skim it.

For all who care about humanity in these perilous times, and for all true Christians, it is imperative to discern the difference between true under-shepherds and hirelings.

Part 2: How can you tell if someone who has the office of shepherd is actually a hireling?

Part 3: What happens when sheep don’t know they are led by wolves?

***

Many of the ideas and words in this series come from James, an ACFJ commenter and guest poster. Used with permission.

Further reading:

Logic and Authority in the Church – by James

Why is the church so slow at responding rightly to the epidemic of abuse? – by Barbara Roberts

Jesus on Violence – by James. This addresses self-defence and defence of folks who are oppressed by wolves.

28 Comments

  1. Finding Answers

    For me, a first series of thoughts on Sheep, sheep-like shepherds, shepherds, and wolves.

    Being an Asperger individual who thinks in pictures, I (often) need the words / phrases / etc. supplied by other folks (including commenters (etc.)) to hijack in order to (more) accurately express myself (hence my opening phrase “…..a first series of thoughts….”).

    For me, ^That hijacking process usually includes my use of italics / bold / strikethrough / etc..

    An example of ^That process might be summarized (hijacking Barb’s words from the original post 🙂 ): “Many of the ideas and words in this series come from James, an ACFJ commenter and guest poster. Used with permission.”

    Though a Christian for all but the first six months of my almost-six-decades-long life, it is only since the Holy Spirit led me to read / hear / watch / etc. the testimonies of Christians / “christians” / believers / “believers” (including abuse victims / survivors, advocates, etc.) that I started to understand how certain chapters and verses of MOST translations of the Bible could be used to abuse / manipulate / etc. the sheep and the (sheep-like) shepherds.

    ^That thought might be summarised by acknowledging that some Christians / “christians” / believers / “believers” might need a trigger warning before certain chapters and verses of the Bible.

    An example of ^That thought is the inclusion in the original post of the phrase “…….(Possible trigger warning for victims of abuse who have had these passages used against them.)” prior to citing the chapters and verses 1 Tim 3:2-7 and Titus 1:5b-9.

  2. Finding Answers

    From the original post “Here is a sketch of Sheep, Shepherds and Wolves in a typical church:”

    From the original post “The Sheep are told that if they come along on Sunday, behave just so during the service (e.g. wave their hands in the air, or not wave their hands in the air), sing the songs just so, and believe the things they are told, they will become the children of God just so and Redemption is assured. They’re told they are amongst all good people and the Wolves are prowling around outside in the ‘world’. So they feel safe and good about themselves in this fantasy world.”

    ^That MIGHT indicate sheep in a cult.

    From the original post “The Shepherds tell this story just so and feel mighty important preaching this Feel-Good News and all will be well. God is smiling down on them. The importance they feel becomes pride, and distorted perceptions set in. Soon the Shepherds are attached to this image of the good people safe inside being led by good Shepherds (themselves) and the bad people (the Wolves) are all outside. So the Shepherds feel important in this fantasy world and become reliant on it.”

    ^That MIGHT indicate the shepherd is a cult leader, and, very possibly, a psychopath.

    From the original post “The Wolves love this story because, in this story, the Wolves do not exist inside the walls of this feel-good-social-club and are free to fleece and cull the sheep at will. They are invisible. And the Sheep and the Shepherds will cover for them whenever the reality threatens to break cover and become visible, because everyone is all too attached to this fantasy feel-good safe world within the church.”

    There MIGHT be a lone wolf on the inside who plans on taking down the (current) shepherd.

    From the original post “Then someone comes along to blow the whistle to alert and protect others from the Wolves in their midst, and gets attacked by all the feel-good Sheep and Shepherds who would rather live in a fantasy.”

    The whistle-blower MIGHT be a lone wolf on the inside who plans on taking down the (current) shepherd.

    If the story I have created by hijacking from James’ comment in the original post is true, than so, too, is: from the original post “Well, there is definitely someone smiling down at all this fantasy (lies) and it is definitely not God.”

    From the original post “….True under-shepherds for Jesus Christ”

    If the shepherd in the story I have created by hijacking from James’ comment is a true shepherd, than the battle is probably going to be ugly, and the fur will fly.

    The following statements could be made about the story I have created by hijacking from James’ comment:

    IF the fur flies and IF the shepherd is a wolf, the battle will get messy.

    IF the fur flies and IF a (lone wolf) sheep plans on taking down the (current) shepherd, the battle will get messier, especially as the battle lines within the church get drawn.

    IF the fur flies and IF the shepherd is a true shepherd, the battle will probably be the messiest battle, and the church MAY split (or even cease to exist).

    From the original post “Jesus is the good shepherd, the good shepherd gives his life for the sheep (John 10:11). Jesus is the chief shepherd (1 Pet 5:4).”

    ^That.

    The true shepherd might not lose his physical life (though losing his physical life has been known to happen), but the true shepherd might lose his original church (and its’ livelihood).

    On the other hand, the true shepherd might retain his original church, but his original church will probably get smaller, as all the wolves flee to other (sheep) pastures.

    • James

      Finding Answers, I find your observations very astute –
      “IF the fur flies and IF the shepherd is a wolf, the battle will get messy.

      IF the fur flies and IF a (lone wolf) sheep plans on taking down the (current) shepherd, the battle will get messier, especially as the battle lines within the church get drawn.

      IF the fur flies and IF the shepherd is a true shepherd, the battle will probably be the messiest battle, and the church MAY split (or even cease to exist)”

      But how to tell the Wolf from the Shepherd? Many people have trouble in doing this because both sides seem convincing. Here’s how you tell –

      The Shepherd will be talking about truth and justice. A wrong has been done and it needs to be fixed or a wrong direction is being taken and needs to be corrected. The Shepherd will seek to persuade using facts and reason. The Shepherd will focus on the issue.

      The Wolf will denigrate the Shepherd, calling into question their competence, morals and motives. They will avoid the facts of the Shepherd’s ‘message.’ They will seek to coerce using anger and fear. The Wolf will focus on the ‘messenger’ and not the ‘message’.

      An extraordinary number of public and private conflicts boil down to these two approaches to any conflict whether they are in the church, the business, the family or in politics such as the health issues now filling the news.

      • Finding Answers

        James,

        You commented (21ST MAY 2020 – 5:10 PM): “…….They will avoid the facts of the Shepherd’s ‘message.’ They will seek to coerce using anger and fear. The Wolf will focus on the ‘messenger’ and not the ‘message’…..” AND “An extraordinary number of public and private conflicts boil down to these two approaches to any conflict….”

        (Bold added by me.)

        ^That explanation is an apt description of what happens between the pictures in my mind and flashbacks / triggered memories / etc..

        ^That makes for some “interesting” experiences.

      • James

        “^That explanation is an apt description of what happens between the pictures in my mind and flashbacks / triggered memories / etc..

        ^That makes for some “interesting” experiences”

        I can just imagine, Finding Answers!

        It is a tired and familiar pattern. Wolves implicitly repeat Satan’s message (and drive) – “Either I control you or I will destroy you”

    • Thank you, Finding Answers. For my own sake (to help me mull it over) I’m going to rewrite your conclusion a bit. Here goes.

      If the fur flies, and if the titular shepherd is in fact a wolf, the battle will get messy.

      If the fur flies, and if a lone wolf posing as a sheep in the congregation plans on taking down the titular shepherd, the battle will get messier, especially as the battle lines within the church get drawn.

      If the fur flies, and if the titular shepherd is a true shepherd, the battle will probably be the messiest battle, and the church MAY split (or even cease to exist).

  3. Sister

    Barbara,

    Excellent post! I’ve been wanting to comment, but my mind is going a million directions with this at the same time and I’ve struggled with how to organize my thoughts into a coherent comment. The timing of this is apropos as I have witnessed so much sheep following wolves in the last couple weeks.

    For example, the adulation of Ravi Zacharias, with the news of his death yesterday, a good logical speaker, but complete fraud (no integrity).

    I believe Franklin Graham to be a fraud as well and was reminded of that in a tweet of his today.

    Further, I’m witnessing division in the advocacy online social media world between wolves in advocacy disguises that are manipulating sheep to target other sheep, the wolves pretending to be the victim.

    One of the links you included led me to another of your posts where you said we must be fruit inspectors. I loved that expression the first time I read it and now as I read it again. In the examples I mentioned, I know who the wolves are. In all cases except one, I originally thought they were sheep or shepherds, but you have to study patterns. That’s the way to be come a good fruit inspector. I also think it may be deeper than that… as in the nudging of the Holy Spirit. I like to think I’m pretty smart, but psychopaths know just what to say to be compelling. I’ve been fooled by them before and I hate to admit it, but I probably can be and will be again. Isn’t that the first step to being able to stop following a wolf, though, the realization that you are susceptible to being duped? I hope and think the fooling of me will be only temporary and hopefully for shorter amounts of time before I realize I’m dealing with a wolf, not a sheep or shepherd.

    I understand what you are saying about some shepherds being more like sheep than shepherds, as in they’re susceptible to being manipulated. I’m not certain I agree with that distinction per se. It’s an extra biblical concept. That does not make it wrong though. There’s a lot of facts that are not stated in the Bible. I’m just having a hard enough time trying to wrap my head around the distinctions that are in the Bible, trying to figure out who’s a wolf in sheep’s or shepherd’s clothing vs. a hired hand. Some I think are hired hands not wolves. Yet they aren’t fleeing when the wolves come in. They enjoy hanging out with them rather than fleeing. So are they are a hired hand or a wolf? Or does it matter as the outcome is the same? Sheep are devoured.

    Anyway, I could go on and on. Thanks again for this thoughtful post!

    • Finding Answers

      Sister commented (20TH MAY 2020 – 9:51 PM) “…..They enjoy hanging out with them rather than fleeing. So are they are a hired hand or a wolf? Or does it matter as the outcome is the same? Sheep are devoured.”

      ^That.

      In the same comment, Sister commented: “For example, the adulation of Ravi Zacharias, with the news of his death yesterday, a good logical speaker, but complete fraud (no integrity).”

      ^That.

      In the same comment, Sister commented: “Anyway, I could go on and on…..”

      ^That. 🙂

      • Sister

        Thank you Finding Answers. 🙂

    • I agree with Sister’s view that Ravi Zacharias had no integrity, and Franklin Graham is a fraud. Both those men are (IMO) prime examples of titular shepherds who are in fact wolves.

      I have witnessed — and I myself have been at the pointy end of — division in the advocacy community between people who present as and are accorded respect as advocates but who turn out to be manipulative liars. For example, Dee Parsons from The Wartburg Watch is reporting that she is currently being targeted by a woman who she first thought was a victim but who now appears to be a manipulative liar. The SBC had given that woman a platform at their Caring Well Conference. And so far the SBC is not publicly repenting of having given that woman a platform.

      I could attempt a reply to your second last paragraph, Sister, but I won’t, because Part 2 of this series will dealing with the issues your raised there.

      Thank you for your thoughtful comment. 🙂

      • Finding Answers

        Barb commented (25TH MAY 2020 – 12:12 AM) “….Dee Parsons from The Wartburg Watch is reporting that she is currently being targeted by a woman who she first thought was a victim but who now appears to be a manipulative liar. The SBC had given that woman a platform at their Caring Well Conference. And so far the SBC is not publicly repenting of having given that woman a platform.”

        My own (personal) quirky sense of humour: Perhaps the SBC will practice nouthetic counselling on themselves.

      • “Perhaps the SBC will practice nouthetic counselling on themselves.”

        🙂 🙂 🙂

      • Sister

        Thank you Barbara. I, too, thought of Dee and the woman targeting her as well as what you went through.

  4. where2or3r

    Yes, very helpful descriptions by James! The pastors who are basically kindhearted but used by wolves as the unwitting allies of evil are such a grievous thing.

    Also, goats would have some place in this scenario in churches, it seems: unregenerate and thinking they are doing God’s work, but are not really, and He “never knew them.”

    • James

      Where2or3r you wrote –

      “Also, goats would have some place in this scenario in churches, it seems: unregenerate and thinking they are doing God’s work, but are not really.”
      (Matt 25:32-33)
      That’s a very good point, indeed.

      “, and He “never knew them”.
      (Matt 7:22-23)
      Sobering stuff!

    • Goats do indeed have some place in this scenario. Thank you for pointing that out, where2o3r. 🙂

      Off the top of my head I would say that goats are included in what I characterised as Sheep type 2, i.e. those who have believed in a Story Faith but who are not actually born again. Would you agree? Any further thoughts?

  5. Finding Answers

    James,

    You commented (21ST MAY 2020 – 6:13 PM): “It is a tired and familiar pattern. Wolves implicitly repeat Satan’s message (and drive) – “Either I control you or I will destroy you””.

    ^That, which applies to the secular AND non-secular communities, so one may need to change words like “Wolves” and “Satan” to get the point across.

    For me, I MUCH prefer the “control” of the Holy Spirit, although my absolute obedience to Him frequently generates some, um, rather “heated” exchanges. 🙂

    I would have replied to your comment sooner, but I was preoccupied with counting down to a particular finish line. (Omitting details for my safety and protection.)

    • James

      Yes, Finding Answers, you are quite right. I guess words like abusers, perpetrators, predators, psychopaths could be used instead.

      The names change but the ‘game’ is always the same!

      • Finding Answers

        James,

        You commented (22ND MAY 2020 – 6:43 PM): “……the ‘game’ is always the same!”

        The “game” is to lead humanity (by whatever means possible) to (eternal) destruction.

      • James

        “The “game” is to lead humanity (by whatever means possible) to (eternal) destruction.”
        Indeed, Finding Answers. Well said!

  6. Finding Answers

    James,

    I wrote (23RD MAY 2020 – 12:16 AM, and you quoted 23RD MAY 2020 – 6:02 AM): “The “game” is to lead humanity (by whatever means possible) to (eternal) destruction.”

    ^That sentence is actually a combination of two pictures in my mind, but I did not make the connection until late this morning.

    First sentence. The “game” is to lead humanity (by whatever means possible) to eternal death.

    An individual does not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, but chooses (sometimes unknowingly, sometimes unwillingly, sometimes temporarily, etc.) to accept Satan as as their “lord” and “master”.

    Second sentence. The “game” is to lead humanity (by whatever means possible) to destruction

    A Christian individual is driven (for any number of reasons) to take their own life.

    I KNOW there are WAY more pictures in my mind that include WAY more complex combinations of variables than I mentioned in my simple breakdown of my combination sentence. It was only later that I realized that, for me, there is a distinction between the words “death” and “destruction” when used in the context of eternal life.

    I just wanted to clarify my wording. My apologies if I unintentionally hurt anyone or unintentionally cause anyone any offense.

    • James

      Finding Answers,
      I knew (perhaps intuitively) what you meant. And, yes, there is a profound difference between “death” and “destruction”.

      For me, at least, that difference is not easily explained in a sentence or two. Perhaps, it takes a picture with all its interwoven and interactive information.

      • Finding Answers

        James,

        You commented (24TH MAY 2020 – 7:15 PM): “For me, at least, that difference is not easily explained in a sentence or two. Perhaps, it takes a picture with all its interwoven and interactive information.”

        Amen to ^That!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

      • Finding Answers

        James,

        You commented (24TH MAY 2020 – 7:15 PM, and I quoted 24TH MAY 2020 – 7:54 PM): “For me, at least, that difference is not easily explained in a sentence or two. Perhaps, it takes a picture with all its interwoven and interactive information.”

        ^That was percolating in the back of mind, and a ton of connections snapped into place in the pictures in my mind – believe it or not, I could “hear” the snaps.

        You commented (22ND MAY 2020 – 6:43 PM): “The names change but the ‘game’ is always the same!”

        ^That.

        I commented (23RD MAY 2020 – 2:05 PM): “I KNOW there are WAY more pictures in my mind that include WAY more complex combinations of variables than I mentioned in my simple breakdown of my combination sentence. It was only later that I realized that, for me, there is a distinction between the words “death” and “destruction” when used in the context of eternal life.”

        Combining all the excerpted comments: The Bible covers pretty much everything in this comment, although the words we use today differ, and the words we use today differ between the secular / non-secular communities.

        ^That makes for a really big, very convoluted picture in my mind (and some components are continually at war). 🙂

      • James

        Finding Answers
        “^That makes for a really big, very convoluted picture in my mind (and some components are continually at war). 🙂 “

        I guess I have some appreciation of what you’re saying. The ‘overwhelm’ can be pretty . . . overwhelming . . . but the “aha’s” can be pretty rewarding when they come.

  7. Hi everyone, I know I am behind in responding to comments. I’ve been doing many other things in the last ten days or so. I’ve received help to solve some of my longstanding tech problems with how I use my laptop and phone. And I’ve done some hard physical work cleaning out a fishpond — as a result some of my fingertips are red raw and it hurts me to type!

    I’m getting back to the blog slowly but surely. Thanks for all your wonderful comments. 🙂

  8. Finding Answers

    From the title of the post “Sheep, sheep-like shepherds, shepherds, and wolves”

    ^That.

    I commented (25TH MAY 2020 – 7:16 PM): “…….the words we use today differ, and the words we use today differ between the secular / non-secular communities.”

    ^That.

    Jeremiah was (by some folks) called The Weeping Prophet

    The words in Jeremiah may differ from the words in use today, but surely Jeremiah is still weeping.

    When will mankind stop worshipping false idols (which are different for each individual, church, etc.), including the false shepherds (wolves)?

    From the original post “But the sure foundation of God remains, and has this seal: the Lord knows those that are his. And let everyone who calls on the name of Christ depart from iniquity. (2 Tim 2:19)”

    ^That.

    From the original post “……it’s imperative to discern the difference between shepherds and wolves.”

    ^That.

    From the original post “Part 2 of this series will be titled “How can you tell if someone who has the office of shepherd is actually a hireling?””

    ^That might help folks “…..discern the difference between shepherds and wolves.”

    • Finding Answers

      Adding on to my own comment….

      (Omitting details for my own (personal) safety and protection.) I have been watching Christian institutions follow secular institutions in cover-ups, and also in sweeping abuse / sexual harassment / etc. under the proverbial rug.

      (Omitting details for my own (personal) safety and protection.) I have been watching Christian institutions follow secular institutions in grossly over-compensating individuals in the upper echelons of the institution for their (the upper echelon’s) “work”.

      (Omitting details for my own (personal) safety and protection.) I have been watching Christian institutions follow secular institutions in ignoring the folks who do the majority of the actual work.

      Perhaps it’s time the Christian institutions stop following the secular institutions and return to their (the Christian institution’s) roots.

      From the original post “A bishop must be faultless, the husband of one wife, sober, discreet, respectable; who is welcoming toward others and giving of shelter; able to teach; not drunken, no fighter; not given to the love of money, but gentle, abhorring quarrels, abhorring covetousness; and one who rules his own house well, having his children under obedience with all respectfulness. For if a man cannot manage his own house, how will he care for the congregation of God? He may not be a young scholar, lest he swell and fall into the judgment of the evil speaker. He must also be well reported of among those who are outside, lest he fall into rebuke and the snare of the evil speaker. (1 Tim 3:2-7)”

      ^That.

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